Comments on: is it? ooooh!

By: ginsu

ginsu — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:20:45 +0000

calling dubstep the new heavy metal is a compliment, as far as im concerned. Dubstep like any genre of music has its good and bad. it has some innovators and some copycats.
some exploring roots and inspiration from clasics. and some exploring new technologies or crossroads with other genres. some dance music is about beatmatching and providing same sounding stuff that can be easily blended by djs. whatever.

burial had a few good cuts on the first album. would have been some nice illbient back in the day. if the whole dubstep genre came out in the mid 90s it would have blended well with Boston style Illbient.

By: Banwan Brown

Banwan Brown — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:33:22 +0000

Well whatever you say, if you just saw things in terms that humanity was infinate and not just vynil producers, you would see that the moment you were born until now wasn’t that long really and every new tune is another one for the ever growing palette. Ten years is not a long time and the rave scene is a bunch of mad inventors trying to build “the scene”. What you should all be doing is helping, but if your fed up with inventing new versions and upgrades of the same thing maybe take some acid.

By: paul

paul — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:37:20 +0000

Skream’s Dutch Flowerz is just like digidub and is fantastic.

Boxcutter’s Brood and Sunshine are nothing like digidub but are fantastic.

DMZ nights have a mix of races, genders and ages.

But keep going Red, we may not agree with you but you’ve got some good stuff to say.

By: dubversion

dubversion — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:00:32 +0000

Also, a lot of the best dubstep sounds less like a merely updated digidub but like jungle slowed right down.

I reckon Wasteland were dubstep before anybody

By: dubversion

dubversion — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:58:10 +0000

Have to agree that while redeye makes a couple of pertinent points, it’s lost in lazy thinking and generalisations. All that guff about students etc.

Also, to accuse of dubstep of being unimaginative because of the song titles surely misses the point – surely it’s being ‘referential’, it’s acknowledging its influences, it’s harking back. That’s not the same as being derivative. There surely shouldn’t be a need to go through all the crap about post-modernism and referentiality and meta-this and that, but somebody calling a dubstep track “Killerstep” is clearly not a failure of the imagination – perhaps redeye instead has had a failure of humour?

Anyway, as Paul as already said, to write off decades worth of reggae – and steppers, dammit – invalidates the rest of the argument anyway.

I’m honest enough to admit that the dubstep I do really like probably appeals for the very fact that it does sound like an updating of a genre – digidub – that i really love but which had grown awfully stale. To hear the sounds and dynamics of the aforementioned Prowling Lion, Scud Missile, stuff like that given a fresh twist gives me a stiffie, and I don’t care who’s making it or who they’re making it for.

By: Downpressor

Downpressor — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:28:16 +0000

red eye, you may have some points in there somewhere, but you burried em with the Golden Shovel of Bullshit.

I dont think we have “dubstep” here in tokyo. If we do its just called reggae.

By: jim

jim — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:07:20 +0000

sorry red eye but my bullshit detector is working fine and it’s parping loudly at your unsubstantiated comments. i’m not even a big supporter/player of dubstep in general, though there have been some cracking tunes, i actually possibly agree with some of your wild claims but you give absolutley no back-up to justify your long-winded rants and seem to delight in tearing down all sorts without actually stating anything non-damning.
i couldn’t give a toss about your background or ethinicity (or that of the people who make the record i enjoy and promote), only whether you have anything worthwhile to say and how well you put it – so your middle class student comments are just plain dumb and dredging up those sorts of tired old race/class lines colour everything else you write…in brown!

people in glasshouse shouldn’t throw stones about names…red eye (and thats hardly an original or clever handle is it now? whaddya do smoke a lot of weed/have an eye infection??)
furthermore on the name dubstep, who coined that and for that matter who is happy with it? does everyone who makes a record that might fall in this category have to take the blame for your moral outrage over something important as a subgenre name?? it was probably coined by a journalist, which is what it seems you wish you were.(don’t give up the day job)

you hate tanya stephens/south rakkas etc..you’re a fool to say that! any serious argument goes out the window when you are so proud of own half baked opinions and so dismissive of everyone elses. there are some points worthy of discussion in your red-eyed rant but you obscure them with all the sweeping statements and trashing.

nothing new or adventurous in reggae in the last 10 years i think assassin had the line for that sort of stupidity ‘idiot ting dat’ – you haven’t got a leg to stand on there.

By: kek

kek — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:29:58 +0000

Just got back from FWD>> and can say, hand on heart, that Dubstep is both All of and None of the above….:-)

By: loki

loki — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:40:05 +0000

still think the whole dubstep scene is just stripped down Trickyhop with a sidewinder of carrion-feeding DAT abusers and a nasty aversion to tunes… but (imagine Dick Emery) I like it…

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:32:27 +0000

this post actually almost inspired me to write a long-winded blog post about the Burial thingy and dub-step

but, the more i lay in bed last night thinking about it, the more i realized that my attraction to dub-step is just all about the sheer sonics…is it anywhere near as good as dub-reggae or old skool d n b? newp…is it white student music? i dunno…im too far removed geographically from the whole scene to have a clue, really…many people have said that, and ill hafta take your word for it…but so what? at the end of the day, i like it because it sounds really amazing cranked up really loud, especially after smoking a fatty

great post, though, Red Eye…youve thought a lot more about it than i have, no doubt about it