Comments on: Rave Futures

By: The Bass is Back in Town | Cardiff Arts Institute

The Bass is Back in Town | Cardiff Arts Institute — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:10:57 +0000

[...] qualify me as the 2nd wave of old skool or something! God knows, ask someone who cares about the hardcore continuum [...]

By: paul "Essex boy" meme

paul "Essex boy" meme — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:14:32 +0000

Loki – there are plenty of girls at dubstep raves.

By: Eric K

Eric K — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:44:39 +0000

Spot on post. Simple as.

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:24:14 +0000

spot on, john. the whole idea of the continuum has been way over-stretched.

By: Loki

Loki — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:49:52 +0000

Funny how these things go in waves… most of the bloggers at some point get sucked into theorising about the ‘death of rave’ , the electro-droid-toss streaming down the penines etc(we miss College, those who aren’t still at College in some form anyhow) … for my mind, I never ‘got’ dubstep for purely aesthetic reasons -no girls at the clubnights, too much head nodding, too many hoods, not enough bright colours (still think there’s a touch of the emperor’s new clothes about it) – and now I’m heading towards silly electro-disco nights and old school raves (skool? I never know…) – places where any semblence of cool (or even relevance) seems to have been inverted or sent packing and replaced with dayglo girls (and boys) with funny bits of coloured wool in their hair or trousers that look like exotic types of pepper, meant for roasting… (not even sure if you can use that term with impunity these days… the language is moving faster than i can blink…)

So, in summary, I agree.

By: paul autonomic

paul autonomic — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:21:22 +0000

I don’t think it even held up for that long, if only because there was no accounting for all the other continua or whatever(disco, ska, dub, dancehall, hip hop, funk, soul, US techno, European techno, etc………..) that are obviously in play or the multitude of things they’ve spawned. Not to mention its Anglocentric tunnel vision, as if you could trace some hermetic path that had nothing to do with the the Americas, South & East Asia or Europe, or even most parts of the UK. And the fact that its always about what a few select dudes say is ‘the thing’ at a given moment. A female version would look totally different.

Anyway, I never had the stomach to have a real go at it beyond the odd swipe, so nice one John. I’m sure I belong to the over-analyzers camp but I’ll be happy if I don’t hear the word again, at least not as an excuse for whingeing about the end of music or its 11th-hour resurrection.

By: mms

mms — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:31:15 +0000

i guess i mean to fit into the criteria and actually be considered worthy of attention it’s never received until now, it has to be liked by people who might have liked stuff that the hardcore continnum was about if they had been old enough to go into clubs, which is just dumb.

By: mms

mms — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:13:20 +0000

the hardcore continnum idea might have made sense for a specific part of the country and for some people about 12 years or so ago but nowdays it hardly stands as a theory, its based on cherry picking evidence nowdays and was designed by a guy who has lived in the states for a long time now, its all a bit who cares, why not check a night out or some records/mix cds.
As for funky house, it’s been around for fucking years, it’s pretty staple, i think it was originally quite west london etc, a part of london that’s not really featured in the hardcore continnum, plus its quite dull and dressed up on the whole, i don’t see how its really possible to fit it into some kind of theory of hardcore development, that’s just bullshit really, its as if no one has watched telly or gone to any clubs in the last 10 years where this stuff is staple and the ads are on the telly for the big mix albums. It seems people are surprised that there are regional variations and different audiences with house music as if that is some cause for scrutiny, or it’s something new!

By: Gutter

Gutter — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:42:16 +0000

You tell ‘em, John, and give those fuckers a kick in the balls from me while you’re at it!

By: tom

tom — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:06:34 +0000

This cap only fits if you ignore the evidence, which is easy to do if you stopped listening to Grime two years ago because you were looking for the next big thing.

Man went deeper!

It’s true though, what you and Alex are saying. It feels like some make their judgements on the music based on how they want it to fit into the higher theory, ignoring what’s actually there.

There’s plenty of sweet, poppy grime (hasn’t half the CRITICISM about it in the last couple of years been that it’s not grimey enough?), and there’s equally testosterone filled bassline (if you watch clips of the raves there’s plenty of blokey dance moves and girls giving gunfingers).