- djcarlito

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4cxFXgMmt4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-wLqE9DY1I&feature=related

Send Tubby’s relatives, John Foxx, The Normal, and the guy who did the vocal the royalties?

Why not ?

The problem is, that these dub step tunes and related genres ( and to a lesser degree, so many ‘new UK digi dubs’ of the previous ten years ) just inevitably end up using samples of ‘real Rasta’ voices in a talismanic sense, to add ‘authenticity’ and ‘genuine depth’ to their tunes — But in so many ( esp dubstep and new euro dub ) cases,if you remove and take away the samples from the records — then I wonder what you have left? Some cold synth sweeps that bring to mind London ( or any other European inner city ) in the winter? Some sirens which are again, talismanic, in that they are taken wholesale from another cultures’ inventiveness? A heavy bass ( which anyone with a computer can create) ? A drum machine heavily echoed?

Again, anyone messing around on a computer can do most of that.

It all becomes like picking over the bones and left overs of another cultures’ inventiveness — but wanting to take all the kudos and accolades that the original artists truly deserve.

Yeah, a lot of the newer artists’ records do sound alright, and yes, the bass lines are evocative,and I can’t help but like a lot of it — but I don’t know — there’s just too much which sounds like stealing other people’s fire and creativity to me.

Even the name, Wadada, is borrowed from Rasta, and even the reified central motif — B-R-I-X-T-O-N — is largely another culture’s creative domain, again, fetishised by the artist, the so called Wadada.

Dub step and related genres are by no means as Promethean as they pretend to be.

As I said, I just want to wilfully play both sides of the argument here — but none of these records sound anywhere near as inventive as the original Jamaican artists and European electronic ‘out there’ artists sounded between say, 1965 — 1985.

None of ‘em.

well, I am not going to argue with you since at my age that would be pointless, but I should just say that I’d take the 1960′s output of the Silver Apples any day of the week rather than the questionable records of dear Dizee, since arguing over post codes — whether said post codes be in Peckham or in the Valley of the Kings — has never really been a top priority for me.

What do you want then Nag, old skool orthodoxy? No offence, but you show your age — For a start, Dizzee Raskal man dem keeping it real with his reality lyrics and all. That’s, like, reality radio for the youth dem, man, all ova Pekham and Hackney Post Code way, and when man dem buss shot like rice, man dem don’t step in anotha man post code, ya hear me, and man like Dizee speak trut in da lyrics.

So, is taking the forms to another place. That’s probably a place that you don’t understand, so you diss what you don’t know, which is always the way; part of evolution innit?

Now rewind the Dizee tune man cos bwoy, that’s rough. Nuff man out there got Dizee’s name in their lyrical swing an ting when they chat to respec tha ghetto.

RockasHiya

My words are not a flame, or weasel words — just an honest response.