{"id":1256,"date":"2008-04-24T10:03:11","date_gmt":"2008-04-24T09:03:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/?p=1256"},"modified":"2008-04-24T10:03:11","modified_gmt":"2008-04-24T09:03:11","slug":"the-fucking-pricks-treat-us-like-cunts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2008\/04\/the-fucking-pricks-treat-us-like-cunts\/","title":{"rendered":"the fucking pricks treat us like cunts"},"content":{"rendered":"

<\/a><\/a>\"Flux<\/p>\n

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Sean over at expletive undeleted unearths Flux of Pink Indian’s most, ah, “challenging” album <\/a>and also republishes his interview with them from around the time it was released<\/a>.<\/p>\n

I came into anarcho punk from the wrong end – managing to pick up this LP and Crass’ similarly experimental “Yes Sir I Will” before the more catchy pogo-along material which preceded them. I suspect this was because they were both readily available cheap and 2nd hand at the time –\u00a0 the dog end of the “movement” around 1986 or so. I can easily\u00a0picture a line of twenty something blokes with dyed hair and leather jackets queuing up at the counter of 2nd hand record shops across the country to cash these in for something more to their liking.<\/p>\n

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Both albums have a great deal in common – their unlistenability, the influence of free jazz (something I have never really tolerated – though I find it interesting that Flux would be into the Art Ensemble of Chicago. Crass always had a beatnik thing going on anyway…). What I think is most interesting about these records is that they represent a realisation of the limits of anarcho punk <\/a> from two of its foremost exponents.<\/p>\n

\"flux<\/a><\/p>\n

The big boys outmanouevred the spiky tops, basically. Singing songs or even glueing up the locks of butchers shops was nothing in the face of the Falklands war, or US nuclear weapons being installed at Greenham Common, or the wholesale attack on working class communities in the form of the miners’ strike. Or even sexual violence against women.<\/p>\n

Coupled with that both bands were clearly having an identity crisis and questioning their role as leaders and performers vs their following or audience.<\/p>\n

So, bloody awful albums which raise some interesting questions?<\/p>\n

As Sean says, Flux are often overlooked in the historification of anarchopunk. Crass’ subsequent trajectory is well documented – they followed up their difficult album with a greatest hits and a completely unlistenable hippy jazz 12″ before imploding.<\/p>\n

Flux on the other hand recorded “Uncarved” with Adrian Sherwood<\/a>, Style Scott and Bonjo I from On-U Sound. (The album title came from the same book as the title of this blog\/website incidentally – I’m not such a massive fan of the LP that I named all this after it! But it is worth a listen.)<\/p>\n

Coal Latter from the group went on to form Hotalacio who released a great cover version of Cameo’s “Talking Out The Side of Your Neck” produced by Keith Leblanc of Sugarhill Gang\/Maffia\/Tackhead fame and an album which I haven’t heard…<\/p>\n

Sean also mentions the new punk nostalgia and it is I guess inevitable that these aspects of the music (and indeed the non-musical aspects) are usually overlooked at the expense of the more rock ‘n’ roll singalonga “do you remember when we were all so angry at Thatcher? Oh yes I’ll have a pint.” material.<\/p>\n

I’m not sure where that leaves us, really.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Sean over at expletive undeleted unearths Flux of Pink Indian’s most, ah, “challenging” album and also republishes his interview with them from around the time it was released. I came into anarcho punk from the wrong end – managing to pick up this LP and Crass’ similarly experimental “Yes Sir I Will” before the more …<\/p>\n

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