{"id":3305,"date":"2010-04-25T21:16:14","date_gmt":"2010-04-25T20:16:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/?p=3305"},"modified":"2010-04-25T21:16:14","modified_gmt":"2010-04-25T20:16:14","slug":"the-twenty-second-gig-i-can-remember-going-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2010\/04\/the-twenty-second-gig-i-can-remember-going-to\/","title":{"rendered":"The twenty second gig I can remember going to"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2010\/05\/the-first-23-gigs-i-can-remember-going-to-full-list\/\" target=\"_blank\">Click here for\u00a0a complete list of entries in the series \u00a0&#8220;the first 23 gigs I can remember going to&#8221;.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"TG Ltd Astoria 1988\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/tgltdast88.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"623\" height=\"496\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>22. Throbbing Gristle Ltd. <\/strong><strong>Astoria, <\/strong><strong>3rd June 1988.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The Apocalypse Club put some good events on after the main gig of the night at the Astoria had finished. I remember weighing up whether I could get to see\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2010\/01\/the-sixteenth-gig-i-can-remember-going-to\/\" target=\"_blank\">Into A Circle<\/a> there after the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2010\/02\/the-eighteenth-and-nineteenth-gigs-i-can-remember-going-to\/\" target=\"_blank\">Butthole Surfers\u00a0gig at ULU<\/a>, until my sister grassed me up to my parents for thinking about being out so late. Actually, I think they said it was up to me but I figured I&#8217;d better play it safe (being the revolutionary psychonaut that I was, ha ha!)<\/p>\n<p>I was mystified and excited when I saw &#8220;Throbbing Gristle Ltd&#8221; in small print in the NME listings. I rang up the Astoria and the person on the other end didn&#8217;t really know much about it but muttered something along the lines of &#8220;yes I think they&#8217;re reforming for it&#8221;. At the time that was completely unthinkable, but that didn&#8217;t stop me handing over my Mum&#8217;s credit card details for a ticket.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/kezar.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3419\" title=\"kezar\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/kezar.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Throbbing Gristle had played their <a href=\"http:\/\/www.discogs.com\/Throbbing-Gristle-Mission-Of-Dead-Souls\/release\/411621\" target=\"_blank\">last gig on 29th May 1981 at Kezar Pavillion, San Francisco<\/a>. I wasn&#8217;t able to make it for various reasons including being eleven years old, living on another continent and never having heard of them.<\/p>\n<p>By the mid eighties I had become an industrial music obsessive and knew that the group had split up pretty acrimoniously after that gig &#8211; and that the various parties had made snide comments about each other in interviews ever since.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/tgterminated.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3420\" title=\"tgterminated\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/tgterminated.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"432\" height=\"298\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>TG product was readily available in the eighties courtesy of the Mute Records reissues of their albums. Needless to say I was too purist for <em>them<\/em> and waited patiently until I got my hands on cheap copies of the Industrial Records originals (except for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.discogs.com\/Throbbing-Gristle-The-Second-Annual-Report\/release\/70574\" target=\"_blank\">ultra limited 2nd Annual Report<\/a> which I got on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.discogs.com\/TG-The-Second-Annual-Report\/release\/2042839\" target=\"_blank\">Fetish<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>It should go without saying that the first four &#8220;proper&#8221; LPs (2nd Annual Report, D.O.A., <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2008\/07\/books-what-i-have-read-recently\/\" target=\"_blank\">20 Jazz Funk Greats<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2003\/07\/nothing-here-now-but-the-recordings-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">Heathen Earth<\/a>) sounded earth-shattering to these ears in the mid eighties and still cut the mustard in 2010.<\/p>\n<p>I can still remember working as a temp, changing the oil in lathes at a factory in Enfield one summer and spending my lunch hour sitting in some waste ground, eating my sandwiches and playing Throbbing Gristle on my walkman. Which made for a very noisy day.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/51XR6MZPjDL__SL500_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"51XR6MZPjDL__SL500_\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/51XR6MZPjDL__SL500_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"227\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/ICULTURE.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"ICULTURE\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/ICULTURE.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"229\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The two <a href=\"http:\/\/researchpubs.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">RE\/SEARCH<\/a> books dealing with TG were staples of my weirdo library, with a wealth of information and trivia. I had resigned myself to never being able to see them live. And to be fair, I never <em>have<\/em> seen them live &#8211; not really. Because this wasn&#8217;t actually Throbbing Gristle, but Genesis &amp;\u00a0Paula P-Orridge, Scott Nobody and other PTV types.<\/p>\n<p>There was no support band, just lots of anticipation &#8211; on my part at least. Wandering around the venue I spotted the obligatory merchandise stall selling the usual bits and bobs, but also some ridiculously rare artifacts like Heathen Earth on blue vinyl. There was a bit of a scrum for the &#8220;antique&#8221; items, so instead I got myself a TG LTD t-shirt with union jack a la <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2006\/01\/acid-tablets-revisited-again\/\" target=\"_blank\">Jack the Tab<\/a> but with a TG lightning flash instead of the inverted peace sign. It was a bit fascist looking, which went with the territory.<\/p>\n<p>Years later I spent some time rummaging around in the London patents office on a P-Orridge related mission. One of the guys working on the front desk saw the TG logo and mentioned that he used to march under it. I twigged that he was talking about <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:British_Union_of_Fascists_flag.ant.svg\" target=\"_blank\">Oswald Moseley&#8217;s British Union of Fascists<\/a>. In retrospect I should have pursued that further, but the guy clammed up a bit when he realised we weren&#8217;t on the same wavelength.<\/p>\n<p>On the night in question I think the <a href=\"http:\/\/ftvdb.bfi.org.uk\/sift\/title\/128452\" target=\"_blank\">Coum Transmissions film &#8220;After Cease To Exist&#8221;<\/a> may have been shown. At the time I would have paid six quid just to see that, such was its legendary status. Side two of TG&#8217;s first album is the soundtrack to the film &#8211; lots of sinister pulsing electronics which are soothing on the surface but somehow also manage to create a sense of unease. A lot the film itself is completely black (an idea borrowed from Guy Debord?) which means that the audience is plunged into darkness, waiting. I can&#8217;t remember much about the the actual footage you can see except that it features a staged castration of some unfortunate man.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/gentgltd.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3461\" title=\"gen tg ltd\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/gentgltd.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>TG Ltd performed reconstructions of Throbbing Gristle that were pretty good facsimiles of the original. Moody lighting, black and camouflage attire. Minimal, militaristic. Very different from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2010\/03\/the-twentieth-gig-i-can-remember-going-to\/\" target=\"_blank\">the recent &#8220;hyperdelic&#8221; Psychic TV shows<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I remember a lot of rhythmic noise and electronics, out of which emerged the familiar sonic attributes of tracks like &#8220;Weapons Training&#8221;, &#8220;Persuasion&#8221;, &#8220;Hamburger Lady&#8221; and others. They were probably all the better for not being faithful tributes. Gen was clad in black, improvising heavily around the lyrics.<\/p>\n<p>In many ways this satisfied the itch I had to witness PTV performing darker pre-&#8220;hyperdelic&#8221; material. Paula P-Orridge provided some vocal samples on tape from the PTV library, stuff like Charles Manson talking about being <em>&#8220;scared to live&#8221;<\/em>, <em>&#8220;This is a fucking war!&#8221;<\/em> from a zombie film via the Jack The Tab album, moans of female pleasure and pain.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Discipline&#8221; was the grand finale, with the mighty <a href=\"https:\/\/uncarved.org\/music\/vdo\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">Jordi Valls<\/a> appearing onstage brandishing a whip, looking out of his mind. Some people down the front were losing it a bit, I think there was some ranty screaming going on. It was pretty intense.<\/p>\n<p>But what was it all <em>about<\/em>? Genesis described it both as &#8220;a banishing ritual&#8221; and &#8220;to pay the telephone bill&#8221; at the time. He went on to explain his take on the event in an interview with the Swedish T.O.P.Y. magazine &#8220;Fenris Wolf&#8221;:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3462\" style=\"width: 162px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/tg-ltd.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3462\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3462\" title=\"tg-ltd\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/tg-ltd.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"152\" height=\"220\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3462\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tif.org\/caution\/coum.html\" target=\"_blank\">The continuing historification of TG<\/a> after this gig has thankfully allowed old wounds to heal. Throbbing Gristle reformed in 2004 and have performed live and released a few albums. I have to confess that all of this has completely passed me by, although people who I respect tell me that they are doing good works. I&#8217;m glad they are still out there, causing trouble.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, back in 1988, my &#8216;A&#8217; Level retakes were looming&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Click here for\u00a0a complete list of entries in the series \u00a0&#8220;the first 23 gigs I can remember going to&#8221;. 22. Throbbing Gristle Ltd. Astoria, 3rd June 1988. The Apocalypse Club put some good events on after the main gig of the night at the Astoria had finished. I remember weighing up whether I could get &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/2010\/04\/the-twenty-second-gig-i-can-remember-going-to\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading &lsquo;The twenty second gig I can remember going to&rsquo; &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15,22],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3305","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-industrial","category-t-shirts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3305","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3305"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3305\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3305"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3305"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uncarved.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3305"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}